Details for "I.Cant.Believe.Its.Not
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!p2p! [14:59:37] Dear P2P-Network users: recently some of our voluntary funding sources unfortunately
went away. What this means is that we now have to pay approximately 300 a month to maintain all our
servers. We kindly ask you to help us support these costs by donating whatever funds you have available
via http://www.p2p-network.net/ or directly to donate@p2p-network.net via PayPal. Please be aware that
this is purely voluntary.
!p2p! [14:59:43] Also, some of you may have noticed that we currently do not have any European-based
servers, we are working on getting some running soon. If you have a European-based dedicated server that
is capable of supporting an IRC server and which we can use, please join #routing and explain what you
have to offer in detail, this would be a big help as well.
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p2p was djgrrr@staff.p2p-network.net * djGrrr
p2p using citadel.us.p2p-network.net Sun Dec 20 14:00:56 2009
p2p was djgrrr@staff.p2p-network.net * djGrrr
p2p using citadel.us.p2p-network.net Sun Dec 20 13:57:43 2009
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* Dns resolved area51.us.p2p-network.net to 66.252.30.123
network:IP-Network-Block:66.252.30.0 - 66.252.30.127 (123 is area51 of course)
network:Org-Name:Shellfx
ShellFX is Xzibition also goes under the company name OutCast, area51 has about 550 users average, a 500
user shell is 9.95 but lets say P2P-Network.net bought a 800 user ircd for 14.95. According to the owner
of ShellFX/Xzibition/Outcast LazyKat, djGrrr has free ircds and shells on every server run by the company
for helping out so true cost: 0.00
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* Dns resolved moo.us.p2p-network.net to 69.30.232.148
69.30.232.148 resolves to moo2.jchost.net
so JCHost is a company owned by corNIC so technically moo.us is paid for because what kind of an oper
donates a server and then
accepts donations to pay for the server he donated, so 0.00 goes to that.
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* Dns resolved mars.ca.p2p-network.net to 204.16.200.180 aka the old tank.ca.p2p-network.net
Mars is a colod server owned by Spike who works for the datacenter wheres its hosted. So cost, well all
its running is an ircd from the looks of it, and an overkill spec is 100Mbit w/ 1000 GB which is about
49.99 CAD/month. So thats the first total 49.99
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* Dns resolved afk.us.p2p-network.net to 66.154.99.150
afk.us is also the server for the official QuadraNet.com website. Official Website Server Paid for by
QuadraNet, cost to P2P-Network
0.00
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* Dns resolved juggernaut.us.p2p-network.net to 72.20.48.95
juggernaut 72.20.48.95 and 72.20.48.95 is owned by Xzibition.com again, so cost 0.00 at most
14.95/month.
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* Dns resolved citadel.us.p2p-network.net to 72.20.40.52
72.20.40.49 P2P-Network.net official website
72.20.40.50 LinuxHosted.ca LinuxHosted.net GenerationTrance.com
72.20.40.51 proxy scanner for users connecting to the network
72.20.40.52 citadel
72.20.40.53 Originally used as server for running nginx proxy for SceneTorrents.org (SSL is even still
active for this domain/ip)
So if GenerationTrance and LinuxHosted (the company used to funnel donations from SceneTorrents to
private paypal accounts) doesnt pay for the server they are using ill be nice and let them rent a P4 for
109.00 USD.
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* Dns resolved chaos.us.p2p-network.net to 66.252.11.9
network:IP-Network-Block:66.252.11.0 - 66.252.11.63
network:Org-Name:Shellfx
again most likely free as its owned by Xzibition.com, if not 14.95/month
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* Dns resolved gige.us.p2p-network.net to 63.251.179.17
Surprisingly the only one i couldnt trace down.
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P2P-Network.net asked for: 300.00 USD/month
Potential Real Cost: 203./month
Probable Real Cost: 109/month
Why the all of a sudden need for donations after four and a half years of not asking for donations?
Thats right its pretty obvious, SceneTorrents had their own network, but djGrrr used money from
SceneTorrents users that was meant for SceneTorrents on his other network P2P-Network.net.
Should you donate? probably not, the servers existing now are more than capable of handling several
thousand more users without an issue, if anything they should drop a few and add more .EU as grass.nl
(LeaseWeb/Nforce) and the netdirekt server was also paid for by SceneTorrents donations.
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